Date: 07/17/2012 01:07 pm Title: Chapter 22
I have to admit, I am confused. I am not sure what any of the three men are hoping to achieve.
Gibbs doesn't seem overly concerned about Tony or upset. So does that mean it was just a casual fling? Which would be really out of character, at least where team members are concerned. And what on earth is he trying to do with Tim? Be friends? Bring him into his life? Out of guilt, or to silence him? And what if Tony and/or Tim don't want the status quo to change like that? And Gibbs hasn't even told Tim that things would change on the team- the golden boy would be pulled in.
Tony has lost his mind and reverted to a 15 year old. Does he really hate Tim? Was it casual for him with Gibbs?
And what in heck is Tim trying to bottle up? I mean, I am hoping he hasn't been secretly in lust with either of the other two since they are both not worth it.
Too many fuzzy bits and obscure motivations. And I agree- that moment in the break room isn't really a grand romantic moment to be treasured. Maybe a daring fling moment to be chuckled at but if having sex at work after treating a co worker like crud for weeks as foreplay is the grand moment of the relationship..that is just sad.
I am still loving the story I am just suffering from some "eh?" moments.
It is confusing, isn't it?
We've got Tim trying to keep all things normal - as if nothing happened - all the while no longer willing to go anywhere with Tony alone.
Then we've got Tony - who's tried very hard to stay pissed at Tim and blame him for everything - all the while he's realizing what he and Gibbs had wasn't really solid or 'love' and that what's broken down - is largely due to his own doing.
and lastly, we have Gibbs, who genuinely thought if he reached out a little more than usual to Tim, that the younger man would just open the door and let him in without a fight. Of course, the man's also still wracking his brain as to how to talk to Tony - knowing it's a conversation that has to happen as soon as Tony shows back up.
Who knows what revelations Tony has while talking with his therapist? I personally, think he'll figure out that his relationship with Gibbs was unhealthy becuase it was purely a safety net, driven by his extreme need to be wanted and loved on a personal level - a need that Gibbs inadvertantly feed to the extreme - while trying to be the support he saw that Tony needed outside of work. Not healthy - but not casual either.
I'm pretty sure Tim is definately NOT lusting after either Tony or Gibbs. In fact, at this point, the only emotional tug he's feeling - he's not even acting on becuase he's afraid it's one-sided and even bringing it up will ruin a beautiful friendship and he doesn't want that to happen. He's definately not interested in even looking in Abby's direction for a relationship again. But, he does somehow still greatly value her friendship.
I think Gibbs agrees with you on that moment in the break room -- we know Ducky certainly does.
Thank you so much for staying with us on this difficult journey.
your reviews are greatly appreciated.
Date: 07/16/2012 01:09 pm Title: Chapter 22
I said this earlier but it bears repeating :D. I love how Tim took control from Gibbs' planned "conversation", stood up to him and flat out told him he wasn't ready to talk and then walked out on him...I actually CHEERED when I read that! This Tim is so much stronger, he has plenty of self confidence to stand up to his boss and walk away until he's ready to approach this on HIS terms; early season Tim would have likely just caved and said something to appease Gibbs.
It is tough to see him go through this, isn't it?
Let's hope they respect him enough to do what ever's necessary to try to fix things.
I wonder if they're even fixable - don't you?
Date: 07/16/2012 11:51 am Title: Chapter 22
These people are idiots and with each chapter I am fast losing any liking for them or sympathy for their situations. Aside from a few internal "revelations" they are exactly where they were when the whole mess started! It's gotten tedious. They all need to step up and stop either avoiding discussing the issue, or running to Ducky for insight and advice, then promptly not doing much of anything with it. I'm starting to root for a third option... Break up the band! Move on people! And Tim Grow up and grow a backbone for pity sake!
It is difficult to see so little progres, I agree.
However, painfully difficult situations that shed light on our flaws, seldom see overnight fixes or fast solutions and this is no different.
I'm sure Ducky will be stomping his foot in consternation here soon - most likely at Gibbs' for his lack of agressive efforts to fix things, beginning with Tim.
Tim continues to defend his right not to be bullied into talking about this - just because Gibbs wants him to. he knows there was a time when he would have caved in at the first sign of displeasure from the boss - and spilled his guts. Not that weak under pressure anymore. However, I think we will see him hold on to that control just a little too tightly - and it will eventually explode - let's just hope the fallout's not fatal, hmm?
Thank you so much for staying with the story
your reviews are greatly appreciated.
Date: 07/15/2012 05:50 pm Title: Chapter 22
Great chapter ! It's great that Tim respect himself and I understand that he doesn't thrust Gibbs. I think that he will have to take a decision for his future. Because if he don't thrust Gibbs and Tony, then how can he continue to work with them ?
And he's not happy. He is so sad. How can he continue like that and for how long before and accident happen in the field because of that ?
I really love your story !
Tim has already made the decision that he wants things to be left alone - for everyone to drop the issue - and move forward. Slowly, though, he's realizing that that's not possible - that what he wants isn't going to happen - until and unless- he gets it all out - speaks his mind into the fray - and lets the pieces fall where they may.
Cleanup on that, however, just might be a little difficutl.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
thank you for continueing to read/review.
Date: 07/15/2012 05:17 pm Title: Chapter 22
Personally I don't get why eqaculating in public at work is considered a quality couple moment?? This isn't something to be treasured. If anything this is a moment that Gibbs and Tony should realise everything that is wrong with their current relationship. They are self absorbed, cruel, reckless and thoughtless and this is too each other and other people.
If they can reshape their relationship into something adult and healthy from that realisation then great but the way they are handling things currently shows how exactly how little understanding they had of each other in the first place.
(Tony misreading Gibbs, Gibbs realising how stupid his promises where, Tony running away from his responsibilities like a child because he cant handle dealing with it like an adult etc)
Tim you need to step up and grow a backbone and demand what you want. Respect from your team mates for starters. Friendship with how you have been treated by both of them shouldn't be up for discussion until the issue of respect is addressed. You can't be 'friends' if you are continuously cruel to their feelings and don't respect them as a person first. Tony abused Tim repeatedly and Gibbs allowed it because he and Tony were fucking.
This is a feild position is DANGEROUS as frustration, mistrust and hesitation etc is created. (Once again proving Gibbs as team leader needs a wake up call.)
Tims swallowing of the pain and avoiding the issue isn't resolving anything. Its just helping drag it out.Be a man Tim not some teenage girl thinking your being noble. Dont beg for some respect. Demand it as your due. This is the lesson you need to learn. You, Tim are worth as much as other people so stop trying to protect them and save yourself.
I don't buy Gibbs respecting Tims silence now when he hasn't show respect for Tim anywhere or anytime else. Gibbs should grab Tim and state his case whether Tim chooses to listen or not. Tim should resign from the team to carve out his own destiny...something.(And please dont hook up with Abby as she treats you like shit and is one of the reasons your unsure about yourself)
This current set up is going to get someone killed.
(This Tim seems very early seasons rather then later as Tim has grown more confident as the seasons have gone one.)
By the way I am enjoying your story :) I just find it very frustrating!
I agree - Tony and Gibbs do need to step back and regroup - and realign their thinking with what's right and not with what feels good.
As for where their relationship is headed - Gibbs has already determined that he and Tony need to talk that through and he knows it won't be a pleasant conversation to have.
Tim has matured enough to be confidant enough in what little control he seems to be able to have in this mess - to hold on to his right not to be bullied into anything, including hashing this out - when that's the last thing he wants to do.
All he wants is for everyone to drop it and go on with living - although with each passing day, he's realizing more and more somehwere down deep, that it will soon begin to fester just like the older wounds - if he doesn't get it out. I just hope when he finally does explode from the pressure - that it won't be too catastrophic to fix.
Thank you so much for staying with me on this difficult journey that has no easy answers.
Your continued readership and support is greatly appreciated.
Date: 07/14/2012 05:00 pm Title: Chapter 22
LOVE this chapter, glad Tim stood up to Gibbs when he didn't feel like talking. Although Tim holding it in for the sake of the team is not healthy! Also glad, I guess,that Tony is finally getting a clue.
I agree, Tim maybe doesn't need to keep it locked up - but it is great to see him stand up for what he wants instead of being bullied into something he doesn't isn't?
I'm sure there's hope for Tony - just as there's hope for Gibbs.
where the redemption for them lies, is anyone's guess at this point, huh?
thank you so much for staying with us on this bumpy ride.
Date: 07/07/2012 06:12 am Title: Chapter 1
Thank you so much !
I think at this point, Tony and Gibbs will have to do something quick before loosing Tim.
But I also think that this situation is beyond words. They will have to talk to Tim for sure, but they will have to prove him with their actions.
I really like to read yours stories Emerald and Smartkid ! Continue your great job !
You are so right. They will have to do something soon.
Thank you for your continued reading/reviewing.
Date: 07/06/2012 10:24 am Title: Chapter 17
Abby disgusts me.
She is so self-absorbed that she forges ahead without considering anybody else.
Regardless of what is requested of her.
Abby isn't trying to be self-absorbed - she's just so used to acting first and thinking later that it takes a painful lesson to pull her back and wake her up.
lets just hope she's learned her lesson this time - for good
well, we can hope, right?
thank you for your continued reading/reviewing.
Date: 07/06/2012 09:13 am Title: Chapter 15
Tony is so selfish.
Mmm. Tony is wracked with insecurities right now - his comfort zone has been breached and he doesn't know how to land on his feet just yet.
He's smart enough to know he needs to pull back and regroup.
let's just hope all is not lost when he returns. If he returns.
thank you so much for reading/reviewing.
Date: 07/04/2012 08:45 pm Title: Chapter 20
Something's got to give.
Why does it have to be Tim?
Alas, it is sad, isn't it?
Maybe they will be able to keep him from giving up too much of himself to this mess, by stepping up and accepting responsibility before it's too late.
thank you for reading/reviewing.
Date: 07/04/2012 08:17 pm Title: Chapter 20
Still hanging off the cliff! Please rescue soon!
oh, so sorry about that.
and about this delay in responding.
here's hoping you're not hanging on that cliff any longer - since we've made it back to our feet.
thank you for reading/reviweing.
Date: 05/27/2012 03:29 am Title: Chapter 19
So what will you now Gibbs
I'm fairly sure Gibbs will do what he has to to pull his team back together.
He's already thought things through and realized his and Tony's relationship is not healthy or normal and can't go on.
It's gonna be hard for him to try to pull Tony back into the team and let go of him personnally at the same time - but he's Gibbs. He can do it, right?
Date: 05/23/2012 06:16 pm Title: Chapter 19
I dont understand why Tony is continuing to blame Tim? He knows Tim didnt tell anyone and he even knows tim went out of his way to fix the security cameras and yet he is just dumping everything on him.No wonder he hasnt had a succesful relationship, hes very immature.
I hope Tim does start standing up for himself more with all of the team.
It would be nice if Tim and Ziva got togethet. Rule 12 ruined now anyway and she wants a forever someone to trust and settle down with so Tim would be perfect.
So sorry it has taken me so long to respond to your insightful and wonderful review.
Tony's a little blinded right about now - but he'll find his way - we just have to hope that it won't be too late to salvage his friendship.
I think we'll see Tim's standing up for himself in quiet ways.
Maybe Tim and Ziva will find thier way to each other.
We can hope, right?
thank you so much for reading/reviewing.
Date: 05/23/2012 01:20 pm Title: Chapter 19
I forgot to mention the hint of McGiva, yay, and being happy that Tim, in the middle of all this mess, is so happy to have breakfast with Ziva. Although I was a little taken aback with Tim's thought about Tony having ANY say at all about McZiva. Maybe just an old habit.
As I said elsewhere, this chapter is brilliant! IMO, Gibbs' rather tortured thoughts are where he's needed to go. If he is going to have a relationship with Tony, it needs to be on an adult level and not where & what its been and yes, he's going to have to be Team Leader first. I believe he can pull back that back together, with a lot of work to regain Tim, Abby & probably now Ziva's trust. Abby I'm not worried about, it's not a little problem but not insurmountable & maybe she'll learn something. Oh wait, I saw a pig fly by! Tony, I don't know, so far he doesn't seem to have gotten to the breakthrough he needs, that this is on him & Gibbs, NOT Tim or anyone else. If he can't get there - and be willing to accept responsibility - he's not going to be able to rejoin the team or regain their trust. Now if all this can happen without Vance wondering & asking what the HECK is going on with the MCRT, it'll be a miracle!
P.S. Agree with what you & Emerald say about Tibbs & Gabby.
Flying pigs? Wow, I must have missed it.
I don't think we'll be seeing any reconciliation between Abby and Tim - though they might surprsie us - after all Tim is very forgiving.
Yes, Tony does have a lot of thinking to do and changes to begin going through - if he hopes to find his way back.
I have faith in him, though.
Hmm., I think I saw Vance drawing up his eyebrows in preparation for an _ _ _ -chewing of a certain Team Leader?
maybe we ought to batten down the hatches.
thanks you so much for reading/reviewing.
Date: 05/23/2012 11:22 am Title: Chapter 19
Glad to have you both working on this again!
yes, lots of thinking, lots of angst...are you going to let them ALL have a group hug? (evil grin) Except Abby, I'm still mad at her
thanks for the new chapter :)
group hug is not likely to happen.
but we can hope the team find thier way back to being close knit - or as close to it as they can get.
Date: 05/21/2012 07:10 am Title: Chapter 18
Tim is so hurt.
Will he ever tell Gibbs how he feels?
He may not.
It is poossible that he will tell someone, though.
My guess is on Ducky.
Tim knows that the M.E. usually talks about stuff like this to Gibbs, though - so maybe not.
Hmm. guess we'll have to wait and see, hmm?
Date: 05/17/2012 08:20 pm Title: Chapter 17
This was an interesting chapter, definitely setting up the next stage.
I think the problem with Gibbs and Tony's relationship- in my mind- is that they aren't really acting like they are in one. I mean, you'd think they would try to be on a first name basis at home. Gibbs still acts as "Boss"- head slaps, etc. And he still treats Tony a bit like a "son"- deciding what he can handle, and treating him with kid gloves. They need to work that out a bit unless it really was just a casual fling. And boy, a costly one.
I shall be interested to see if Ziva is shocked by the news just because of the sheer stupidity, or if she had thought Tony was still actively flirting with her and there was a chance. If the latter- she faces knowing she was used, and by her "father" figure here. Both men need to wear cups. Actually, they may for the first scenario too.
The Abby part- you know, her being her, it is a wonder she too Tim's part. Even in her own way.
Cool. Looking forward to the next chapter!
I agree with you in regard to Tony and Gibbs.
and I believe we'll see Tony and Gibbs begin to see the truth of what they do and don't have together soon - if they haven't already.
Ziva just might prove to be the glue in this situation - for all of them.
I'm hoping Abby somehow manages to hang on to Tim's friendship - I think it'll be a tragic loss for her - if she can't.
Thank you for your continued reading/reviewing.
Next chapter's up.